Breaking news- 2 most valuable higher education searches- 1) what are www youth ambassadors for sdgs? what is AI for valuetrue market purpose?how'd you like to search WRJ blog by value chains eg vc1 money vc2 AI & human tech vc3 health vc4 arts and communities happy stuff including olympics vc5 girls safety vc6 education for livelihoods vc7 food as nutrition security & diversity vc8 infrastructure for win-win trade maps vc9 true media
breaking the last empire : americans need to vote now are they separate and superior speciesn OR are they like the rest of the 8 billion of us? new summer 2019 : drucker ::::60 years ago dad, norman macrae, started the first of 100 conversations on AI (Artificial Intelligence), He had just surveyed how Japan was rising (lifting potentially Asians everywhere out of colonial era poverty) round brilliant engineers (bullet trains, container superports , microelectronics, the most reliable engines in the world) - from tokyo he brought back a pocket calculator- what would schools and the world be like if everyone had one of these?

Within a few years the world was debating if tech helps man reach the moon is there any mission impossible on earth.
5G 2020s (4 3 2) 1 G 1970s
And Gordon Moore of Intel had just written a paper promising that microelectronic engineers would improve tech 100 fold every G decade to 2020s -that's a trillion fold more powerful microchips in 2030 than man raced to the moon with. So who's knowledge should teachers and everyone linkin to now if millennials are to be the first sustainability generations and THE UN 17 sdgs are to be celebrated as possible wherever the next girl is born. We welcome your nominations: here are a few examples back from the future of 2030 followed by an approximate chronological order. If in doubt as to whether we know your favorite WRJC please search this blog and mail us chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk if we have left someone out

Sunday, September 29, 2019

8 billion people celebrated greata 74th united nations greatest storyteller and attenborough as bridge between young peoples wechat and old people investments in mother earth

who will be the sustainability's most valuable couple at the 75th UNGA sept  2020

Sunday, September 22, 2019

larry Brilliant

the west's greatest social AI networker across hemispheres?  celebrating good news and actions
N (detroit)  East afghan hills W (mountain view) S india subcontinent

famous for
introducing maps as first critical app ceo google.org 3G decade late 2000s

man who ended smallpox (last cases south asia continent) 1 G decade 1980s
multiplier of aravind/green children microfranchise end unnecessary blindness 1990s on

started up as a detroit youth who could train as a medic in days that student loan sharks did not eist- early 1960s- first job accompanying wavy gravy on world tour abd their holiday in afghan hills with their favorite consciousness gurus- in those days  1960s kennedy's moon race was the viral good news even in the such spaces with the least modern infrastructure (eg no electricity grids and no telephones )

more  on larry 

- more Economistarts.com green children, wavy gravy, grateful dead/EFF, women imagine yoko ono, musicforsdgs.com, singforhope, silk road ensemble, detroit youth choir got talent, south african youth choirs got talentGARETH MALONE- bbc reality tv show the choir, universityofstars.tv
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i have studied disfunctional markets as Cambidge MA Stats since 1976- none has been more terrifyingly disfunctional than aid whenever ruled by fundraisers, ad agents or political supremos instead of grassroots practictioners - until guterres not aware of major branch of  UN in NY led by a practioner since the wonderful japmes grant of UNICEY -without james grant s outh asian women might never have invented microfimace let alone commuit health servants ending death of infants by diarrheas and death of moethrs and children by the 10 simplest every day diseases tropical villagers face -it is probably a real;y bad idea to design the western world's wealthiest city with mad advenu a 3 minutes walk from missions to the UN- jets hope no other supercity of the sustainability generation makes this mistake- chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk founder genre wordclassbrands 1989 washington dc fake media cris hotline +1 240 316 8157

Sunday, September 15, 2019

attenborough

Among the UN's 17 goals - if 8 billion humans are to thrive as tech changes every human possibility- 14 life below water , 15 life on earth provide the most direct opportunity to model how nature runs the globe's systems, and so the disaster man will cause if our use of tech to go global fails to value natures system maps. Staring with the moon race decade of the 1960s, we have known that the 3 generations living 1960-2030 would be mediating change on a scale that either competes or cooperates with nature- more at 5G 4G 3G 2G 1G 0G. -see also WRJ Gordon Moore

The UN Geneva event pictured took place about a week after Hurricane Dorian had destroyed lives on many thousands on the bahamas. In the UN language about 50 of 200 nations are SIDS (Small Island Nations) -while small on land they face huge ocean estates- if we destroy their fish, their coral, heat up their waters their future is bleak. At the beginning of the week the president of St Lucia clarified how global financiers after 9/11 made things worse for sids- because a few had money laundered , a move had been made to exclude many sids from the electronic world of finance. He also explained how the elite global economists eg IMF had misvalued sids- when you require them to grow their economy but provide no funding for infrastructure upgrades caused by the rest of the worlds warming- you design a global economy aimed at destroying peoples of sids.
BLUE PLANET
While all these financial arguments have not moved the policy of the G7 nations much in last 20 years, it turns out that the nature broadcasting of David Attenborugh has. Since the beginning of UK tv Attenborough has told the stories of the natural world. In his recent Blue Planet II series, a billion viewers including a quarter from china on mobiles saw the stories of fish being killed off by plastic waste and the death of coral. The reduce plastic challenge appears to be uniting the peoples of the world faster than even trump can deny. Thank you bbc;  thank you David Attenborough- may the UN finally represent the peoples not just the top powers of nations- that at least is my understanding of what the circular economy will need to map- whats yours? chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk

2019 UNGA Guide.  All of the above was in part a rehearsal for UNGA next week in New York- the first annual event under Guterres leadership themed around sustainability goals in general and climate action urgency in particular -UNGA

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Saturday, September 14, 2019

ka-shing fazle abed schwarzman bloomberg awuah

new universities for old

old universities were set up for to standardise expert silos not to innovate, certainly not to celebrate youth's entrepreneurial revolutions needed locally as man raced global
 - see discussion on this started by economist adam smith!

one of the charateristics of 100 times moore tech per decade is ever larger amounts of data that machines are billion times faster at caluclating than the human brain- how could new universities adapt to that


another as foreseen in our 1984 future history by 2010 half of the most valuable knowledge to network with would be changing every 5 years - siloised precedence hierarchies would be the opposite of a smart design

the world's median age is 30 though this varies- some old western countrie media age is near 50- one or two african countries have more people under 21 than over 21-there's not much democracy in elders ruining climate and sustainability of the next generation just because the legal age to voyte
HOW DATE YOU
when you look at both education any govern systems in the west- ask how kenned in 1960 could assiogn 10000 young brains to one goal but in the last 20 years nowhere in the west has assigned such youth-goal celebrations

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we need universities founded by people ka-shing fazle abed schwarzman bloomberg awuah -
please tell us of new university benchmarks which ,love your youth's ssustainability cooperation worldwide- lets help youth humanise AI
 who cares about tejur regions youth in ways opposite that adminstrators of big universoities NOT concerned with maximising profit/student debt

Sunday, September 1, 2019

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JFKennedy: In 1961 a US president could assign 10000 young brains one great goal (moon race) to advance nations and inspire the world. By 21st C any new president began with legacy of 500000 pen pushers and 2 bipolar parties stuck in past arguments instead of leveraging next giant leaps for humanity. What might have happened if US hadn’t lost confidence in cultural integration, with JFK the first of many leadership assassinations 1963 & English language media turning virally pessimistic 24/7/365/60 ?

Valuing Commons not Socialism: Before world war 2 the BBC started the most innovative media experiment. What if the constitution of world service media wasn’t a corporation nor a .gov but owned by and for all peoples. While licence fee investment structure perpetuated, government control of secrets needed in war time has subsequently prevented much of BBC’s potential. David Attenborough is an exception -from the earliest days of tv show he has celebrated nature with a human joy  His more famous brother Richard went from acting to directing Gandhi the movie and bridging out of London Gandhian networks founded during Gandhi’s last 2000 person summit out of London, Quaker Friends House Easton 1925
1965: Intel’s Gordon Moore  alumni to multiply analytic and communications capacity of silicon chips 100 fold every decade to 2030. Human Race to Imagineer inter-networking with trillion times moore tech than moon landing. How would decades 5G (2020s) 4G 3G 2G 1G 0G(1970s) spin? Could 200 nations road map each decade of rising exponentials ahead of time? Futurise history -replace slavery’s half millennium of inequalities and gun-wars with love & action millennial SDGs so each next girl/boy born to thrive through livelihoods & community

Von Neumann: world wars accelerated engineering technologies: coding, telecoms, transport, nuclear. In 10 hectic years before death by cancer, JVN tided these up for US leap far ahead on nuclear; all other tech from computing to new brain science open sourced globally. Thus immigrant from Europe’s East hyperlinked flows of positive productivity: human & machine intel. He’ be shocked Nasa missed human interest story of moon landing 1969: Look at mother earth: 10% people continent America so lucky lots of land & ocean; due to how Britannia colonized birders 50% people continental Asians so little equality of ocean access; remap world trade out of aisingapore.org so millennials first sustainability generation. So much work to do 1955-2025report.net
 Through Q3 of 20th C, Borlaug grew one of 2 memes whose grassroots networking by village women has saved over a billion people from starvation and dehydration. His crop science raised productivity and food security of village communities. With south Asia’s staple, rice, it is as vital a primary literacy as numbers. Life critical community knowhow is borderless- local rice science innovation  energetically shared by Chinese and Bangladeshi matriarchs since 1970s raising life expectancy
Q3 20th C: American  Deming improves engineering productivity by order of magnitude. Ironically US’s big engineering companies wouldn’t hire him. Deming networks became how japan and  far east re-engineered worldwide supply chains maximizing JIT & SME & next gen infrastructure maps. Core to new capitalism: sustain positive flows: heartland and coastal supercities- by 1962 japan risen 2nd largest economy, by 1975 first 10 years of Singapore transformed far east seas: world trade’s leading space
1964 Detroit, Larry Brilliant’s career starts: first job as doctor to care for Warner Brother’s pop band Wavy Gravy on global tour. After hard year’s work, band relaxes: visiting consciousness guru in Afghan hills. Even remote villagers saw moon race beginning era of no mission impossible. Larry stayed in A. Asia: the man to end smallpox, and …since 1960s The Economist argues local celebration universal health care = core audit designing youth’s global sustainability
1968 Yoko Ono Japanese American multimedia Artist rose from birth to aristocratic family Tokyo 1933 to marrying Beatle John Lennon NY 1969. Wedding song Imagine forwarded united world of peoples beyond old nations. While John killed 1980, Yoko’s vision cheers on artistic supercities and www networkers of love and human capital

America’s most undervalued pop star the Grateful Dead’s J Perry Barlow who wend from leading the band to EFF : Tim Berner Lee’s west coast partner
The second bottom-up knowhow meme for saving a billion lives: Oral Rehydration (OR) discovered in a Calcutta lab. Not until former shell CEO Fazle Abed changed career 1972 to poverty alleviation and developing poorest Muslim women villagers webs can build nations that OR became core primary school curriculum and with crop science catalyst to banking for village family businesses.  During 1970s Fazle started up BRAC Bangladesh Rural Advancement  Committee with head office in village so that BRAC became the first Freire-audited, & now world #1 livelihood edu system, and NGO partnership
Missing Lesson: Back in 1930s when Montessori helped Gandhi design peer to peer village schools, OR unknown
The moon race catalyzed a continent-wide debate across Latin America. What had this region inherited culturally from the Spanish and Portuguese. Brazilian Paulo Freire pedagogy of oppressed chartered the vision of community experiential learning mediated by Franciscan servant leaders. It wasn’t until late 1980s that Boston health students started scaling this with services in Haiti and Peru but as we see from Fazle Abed, Bangladesh Muslim village women empowerment started putting Freire into motion from 1972 onwards. POP took on new meaning of Preferential Opportunity Poor- nations great leaders live , learn with poorest -link in new tech
1964: Out of British Embassy in Tokyo Prince Charles enjoys watching the Olympics on the best tv set he had ever seen. He asks the engineer installing it , Akio Morita, to inward invest in the UK- the first small but hi-visibility step in transformation between Japan and European investments in mutual human productivity and trust-flows
Kissinger’s US diplomacy through 1970s mediated ultimate 21stc miracle- what was the right time for fifth of worlds people to rejoin world markets- china had withdrawn in 1860 rather than accept British ultimatum of opium as trading currency
1946 Japan Emperor Family: Japanese Emperor Hirohito changed Far East’s most aggressive colonist by declaring to his peoples his greatest error. I was wrong in thinking Japanese engineers would be good at war-let’s find every world class value of engineering Far East islanders can share and map happy world trading routes around. From 1962, Economist surveys “Consider Japan” as leading rising sun nations as smart superports. Ref Japan Keiretsu, Korea Chaebol

1976 China’s Deng Xiaoping experiments 5 capitalisms in one: diaspora inward investment, Keynesian agriculture, ..asks japan redesign Beijing’s engineering Uni- scary old communism replaced by human cap: grandmothers & 1-child family tree
Fazle Abed Bangladesh BRAC.net through 0G-5G decades; starts up community resilience hubs chaired by village girls changed the global aid industry; however how to mobilise this through 2G 1990s to 5G 2020s depended on partnership sequencing. Those who kept joining Fazle Abed’s mission just in time have achieved ultra SDgoal miracles eg digital bank-a-billion bkash.com. Back in Marco Polo’s day St Francis demonstrated nature as men’s prime network and local health : the Clares’ network
Which nations’ schools dared explore how 1980s changed language literacy for ever. Coding became as valuable as mother tongue
Bill Gates PCLanguage 1 extended S valley to Seattle
Jobs Apple Mac Valley  PCL2
Torvalds from Nordica to S Valley: PCL3: open source Linux
 Just as coding was the lost curriculum of 20th C, The Lancet has published chapter & verse : missing in 2010s is peer to peer pre-adolescent health
1975 Hangzhou: Jack Ma Part 1- seeing 10 year old Ma bored in classrooms, his Geography teacher said our designated tourist town Hangzhou has no real maps of outside world. Why don’t you train 1000 youth to speak English. be joyful tourist guide, explore their global stories. Jack Ma took education outside classroom age 11-30. Today, different regions in China are designing practical non-examination schooling –eg Girls AI
1985 China: personal telephones non-existent. Jack Ma 2 hears  rumor that Ren Zengfei (Huawei birth 1985) is helping rural communities leapfrog to 21st C telecoms.By1995, his first trip  USA he sees worldwide web and Bezos launch Amazon. He asks the greatest job creating question of changing millennium – when www comes to china how can youth maximise jobs & integrates SMEs into every markets value chain. Jack starts 25 years youth ambassador ecommerce/ fintech
Berners Lee invents worldwide web and transfers from Geneva to MIT Boston. Life’s mission, as seen London Olympics www is for everyone. Co-star opening acts_ Queen Elizabeth & J Bond parachute in
Over 20 us companies cooperate a million dollars each in intergenerational research launch MIT media lab :– first global hub questioning how digital changes architectures wherever people mobilise apps, rebuild infrastructure
Negropronte MIT Media Lab founder, just as Gates later rued missing main language of smart mobiles, Negropronte edutech too early with PCs. But positive uses of co-workers wiki tech emerge including Jimmy Wales wikipedia
MIT Quadirs take mobile phones to village bangladesh – rural world first 1996 -china soon emukates in race to mobilese end of poverty. Quadirs first syndicate includes gift from Soros and tech transfer from Telenor and momentum of Grameen Dr Yunus




Happy 2020s Play GAMES WorldRecordJobs.com (search creator names) – fantasy game 1: pack of 52 playing cards  - transfer list Q&A chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk
Bloomberg NY
Of 10 smartest supercities (population over 15 million), helping all citizens value new tech, USA has one in top 10. New York. gravitated by Bloomberg’s finance (world’s wealthiest top 10), media and social goals, NY 2010s on a roll with early childhood edu, return to nearly free CUNY uni system, Bloomberg conscience: healthy societies generates strong economies. Over 3 billion dollars donated to NY-Baltimore Bloomberg John Hopkins bodes well for AI Health.  US time-warped infrastructure stunted other US cities– let’s see American youth/teachers benchmark smarts of NY, ignore DC’s divisive lobbies. World’s biggest city Shanghai’s Bloomberg?-  Fosun 5 : Guo G, Liang X, Wang Q, Fan W and tech wizard Tan J
Masa Son Tokyo
1981: Masa Son started softbank out of Tokyo just as Japan began its first of five ten year AI plans 1G to 5G. As the 4G decade of 2010s hands over to SDG’s ultimate decade of AI 5G IOT and 7 other top 10 ways to innovate humanity, Masa Son has formed the deepest AI partnership funds- they linkin from US West coast to Taiwan to Japan to China mainland to UK and Saudi and anywhere human AIdemocracy.com could yet rise and shine. An open secret: use supercity hubs as #digitalcooperation labs -check out sharing economy models such as wework – cloud up big data that can empower a giant leap from one to many urgently needy societies in a world where the Artificials are borderless in their statistical superpowers even if the humans are still bordered by 200 different cultural stories of our race’s past glory. Quite simply if AI does not help fintech and edutech value children as every place’s win-win currency, Robots will take over the world and mother earth will have a breakdown. 2020s are most exciting time to be alive if transparency of 2020s AI funds is celebrated . As London Olympics asked: does the global business language of English need a James Bond and Queen Elizabeth to beam down to help identify who’s hubbing loveq? AI- dare we overcome the spectre of dismal haters of hard working families ? Can we ground growth of communities by and for all? Related share girls supercities social economics of Musicforsdgs.com Techforsdgs.com
Guterres NY -of 100 moving parts inside the UN which is most important? Its worth exploring 2 opposite kind of answers that Guterres life has prepped him for. 1. Emergencies the world asks UN to resolve- eg flying in food where million are starving; squatting on borders with refugees until place leaders rediscover faith hope and love. 2 Innovation hubs that educators and youth can map the 5G Ai trillion times moore 2020s with. Starting 2016 UN appointed Jack Ma as youth livelihoods ambassador. Guterres also knows how to culturally translate golden rule religions and places prioritizing spiritual self-determination
Jack Ma 3 from student year 2019 j ma returns to his first career teaching but with 25 years more tech tools and links to the world’s biggest digital payment system and AI explores (eg DAMO www.alibabauni.com) than when he trained 1000 youth person to person to learn English becoming tour guides of china and Silk Road’s world favorite tourist destination Hangzhou. No market is immune from needing to sustain small enterprises – now jack’s reached every market he can with commerce – he’s looking for service celebration platforms include 5 supercities Olympics and green superplace connectors who value their youth as win-win currency

Kishore Mahbubani, Singapore served Lee Kuan Yew. LKY was greatest 20th leader of 6 million person network (Singapore’s birth new nation 1965). Greatness as Singapore defines it is win-win trade with 360 degree diversity that people and places can develop with each other. Anything you don’t know you don’t know about North-East-West-South is worth checking out with KM scholars. He celebrates experiential learning and translations of two of globalisation’s most positive jobs - building Singapore’s National University, as UN Ambassador watching how 200 nations leaders interacted over decades. Read KM’s books on how Singapore has celebrated diversity with all its Asean neighbors, and become the smartest isle on the planet see edu-hub AIsingapore.org
 Bezos Seattle Founded ecommerce 1995.- In 2018 Amazon surveyed 202 US cities for 2020s human AI fitness. 200 failed. One succeeded but the suburb that most needed Amazon didn’t get it. One American capital was causing so much distress for the world that Bezos decided to set up HQ2 as close to its DC border as practical. Alumni of Case’s AOL 1985 including  1776 hubs have “DCBA” dream DC-Baltimore-Amazon- an alternative AI democracy play to google’s alphabet
Schwarzman NY- ex ceo Schmidt of alphabet declared June 2019 that the smartest giving billionaires would do a Schwartzman. So far Schwartzman has planted 3 East-North university colleges : 2  engineering (Tsinghua-MIT) one moral sentiments  (Oxford). Map how to fast forward future of AI research to world’s most curious and loving under 30s not bureaucrats who’d trap them in debt nor
Schwab Geneva
Hosting world economic fora in breaks between skiing was bit cheeky in mid 1960s when father Norman Macrae loved Schwab’s dialogues as antidote to EU bureaucracy. Today as well as China and Davos annual world economic forums, Schwab links 3 additional IR4 supercity hubs – Beijing Tokyo San Fran and 300+ youth global shapers hubs. IF Geneva puts Europe on AI 2020s maps – then thank KC
Pony Ma Founder Tencent- Shenzen regions ecosystem for internet startups. Originally a games web, Tencent invented 2010s favorite mobile chat-tool – called we chat, its been “copied” by whatsapp now a facebook company. Wechat pay extended into one of world’s top 2 digital payment system. Now facebook announces its desire to follow again with LIbra
1998 Serge Brin; Valley’s leading Russian American: from search to AI Alphabet by way of Android O/S: alumnisat.com mobile 4G  -open sourced by Linux Kernel
1999, Romano Prodi, Italian version Economist Entrepreneurial Revolution 1976, starts 5 years leading EU. Med sea integration exclude as Germany superpowers on with its integration
Ka-Shing HK- everyone who loves Hong Kong can thank this billionaire who wired it up before China realized that wireless is the way to empower half a billion Chinese youth dreams. Ka-shing portfolio of investment in newly open university partnerships links entrepreneurs across hemispheres
Kai-Fu Lee Cancer interrupted KFL as Alphabets AI cheerleader- after HK cure started hub at gateway of Tsinghua university- asked to help design AI avenue of entrepreneurs in every university town- his 4 favorite AI superpower compasses: internet platforms,  human body language, big companies with a future, supercity
Robin Li  In China, Baidu plays similar role to google-alphabet. Whilst its initial business model was search, like alphabet it becomes a magnet for digital futures projects. Baidu may we waiting for its big leap-rumor is its main smart tech designer for china’s biggest new town
WeWork hubs: 2005 UK was supposed to be Blair-Mandelas year of make poverty history- instead it became 7/7 nightmare. Friends started up the good hub guide- 15 years on: wework by Adam Neumann (hobby babel AI linguistics) is benchmark AI hub -watch which supercities’ linkin

AirBnb-  1984’s 2025report.net foresaw home swapping as vital to AI maps: eg sustainable tourism www family edu, diverse ecosystem- Brian Chesky’s alumni small step next airbnb designs houses!
Elon Musk the south African who learnt from space what nasa did not and united clean energy engineers in marathon struggles against short-term speculators

Jerry Yang 95’s launch of yahoo very pc centric- by 2001 yang foresaw clouds and mobiles- linked investors from silicon valley japan Taiwan HK and china- if the world is sustained by tech, JY will be one of the most modest but greatest 360 degree connectors
Jim Kim: WHO’s bottom-up health aka anthropologists change medical world when Harvard classrooms exchanged with partners in health practice Haiti & Peru, Scaling support- came from billionaire Soros who asked JK and Farmer serve dissident prisons in Russia to minimize TB there. PIH founded first last mile health teaching hospital in Africa in Rwanda- just in time to help Soros  and brac & last mile servants  in w africa end ebola
Xi Jinping -Lee Kuan Yew nominated XI as an oriental Mandela- capable of living all his peoples enough to survive many downs as well as ups – in the partners he helped youth scale- I recommend western aliens who want to give XI a hearing start with his 1988 book out of poverty- it explains a lot more than any presidential biography I have seen
Kalanick & Camp’s Uber ridesharing changed what citizens expect AI big transport o/s  origin 08 Paris leweb-see more infra treasure maps at bri.school . NB developing world, uber of motorcycles is kickstarter to smart capital citizenry
Japan’s Reiwa’s first year relaunches human AI. Abe Soc5.0 lot of connecting as do #metoo  fashion Japan and Latin billionaires CEOs @ Uniqlo & Zara
Nilekani , Kalam, Modi. Nilekani, India’s greatest job creating technologist, world leader in tele centers spent a decade designing the most exciting big data- over a billion people’s digital ID. This was a shared vision of youth champions late great Kalam –  incubating entrepreneurship inside gov : India’s Space networks. Today Kishore values Modi next steps.
Kagame: when china hosted g20 2016  jack ma spent a year to sherpa tech world citizens including women, youth and fintech. EWTP: He promised to give his knowledge on sme commerce & digital pay to first African nation sure they wanted him . Kagame stepped up as he had done with jim kim an farmer’s first Africa teaching hospital
Kishore believes LKY would vote for Widodo as Asean reality leader. When a mayor of a city as huge as Jakarta become president chances of sustainable human flows rise. More: See last world bank annual meet of jim kim -eg panel with Jack Ma and Nilekani and chief listener Widodo